so heres the update i took it to my LHS they say dailed in the servo links and..i still can't fly it...i never have enough time to get control of it. it hits something before i have a chance to really try anything. thats with a hand launch and tv tray launch. Subtle inputs don't have time to effect movement while more dramatic inputs just send it slamming into something i would need an indoor basketball court to even keep it in the air for more than 5 seconds. actually i doubt i've ever kept it in the air for 5 seconds