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Old 12-03-2010 | 12:58 PM
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fliers1
 
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Default RE: Is HeliX on to something.

ORIGINAL: tinner1

WOW!!! I give you a compliment on your instructing new people, and using your planes, and you insult me and others! See ''red'' in quote below. THAT sounds like a great way to make friends. Maybe that's why you get told to ''stay away'' from club fields like you posted in other forums. (I do read up on peoples posts who put me down.) By the following, bold by me, post quote from above YOU prove MY point perfectly...

fliers1
No problem. Thing is, you and I see things from different points of view. As they say, it's not what you sell, but how you sell it. I have had many kids who I trained who paid for their own equipment from paper routes, Christmas and birthday money, any money that they managed to save. Or if mom and dad paid for it, there was stipulations that if they didn't get good grades or didn't do their chores, etc. they couldn't keep or fly their planes.
I stated that people find the hobby, not the other way around. You fired back with an example that showed the kids ARE spending their own money and time to ''PERSUE'' the hobby. EXACTLY what I am saying. They found and liked modeling and are NOT being ''advertised'' into it. You also raged on my ability to ''sell'' the hobby, again see red above. You know NOTHING of MY history of teaching.
Unlike most clubs, I am only a phone call away to give on-demand instruction.
I am retired and live 5 minutes from my clubs field. I am on the poster board as an ''anytime needed'' instructor. I have a Top Flite Elder 20 with a FMA co-pilot in it as a trainer that I offer up to new pilots, with great success I might add. I have taught hundreds of people over the years, young and old , to fly. And I don't own a hobby shop with a vested interest in getting people to buy things from me! HOWEVER... they ALL came to me. I neither seeked out ANY or turned ANY away. And I have been doing this with gliders, free flight, control line, and now RC. There was a hobby of modeling before RC. The ones who were brought to me by the parents, who said little Johnny wanted to learn to fly, almost to a tee quit. THEY didn't want to stay with it. TOO much effort required, and it wasn't ''instant gratification''.

It's just like sports. I coached soccer for 12 years at the 12 to 16 age group, two teams a season. The kids who came to me played hard and stayed with it. The ones mommy and daddy ''brought'' to me didn't. SAME THING WITH MODEL AVIATION.
In my 40 years in the hobby/sport, I've seen how things are run in other clubs, but unfortunately, you are unable to see how productive my promotion systems works. Not meaning to insult you or anyone else, but because I've been unable to give the modeling world a undeniable demonstration of my promotion methods, it is apparently beyond anyone's comprehension just how well it does works.
I have read a lot of your posts and tried hard to NOT get you to attack my post as I see you so often do to others. You feel your way to teach is the best. I NEVER said it was or wasn't but you immediatly went on the offensive, and commented on MY ability to teach. Maybe that attitude is what turns club members against you? I'm not going to argue with you anymore as I see it is a waste of time. You are set in your ways and the world is wrong. I'm just glad I live in MY world and NOT yours...

Have a great day...

I'm sorry you took it that way, as I didn't mean to come across as an insult. I even stated that I don't mean to insult anyone. I think you may be referring to "you are unable to see how productive my promotion systems works. Not meaning to insult you or anyone else, but because I've been unable to give the modeling world a undeniable demonstration". Poor choice of words. I was saying seeing is believing.

The other thing was you were saying how kids didn't want to put the time in or something on that order. I was just saying how some of the kids I've trained weren't like they ones you described. They worked for everything that got. Sorry you took it so personal.

No, I didn't mean to start an argument. Once again, I'm sorry you took it that way.

Take care,
Fliers1