I'm on my 4th ARF now and my 1rst Hangar Nine product. First was a Hobbico, next two were Black Horse. The build quality was/is fantastic and the covering far superior to any kit I've done. But then I'm sorta ham-handed and never have been the artsy type. But I do love the construction and a little of the problem solving aspect of kits. I do not like a kit being represented as "complete" when it includes junk hardware that nobody in the right mind would use or shoddy installation guides always taking the shortest route to completion. I've never built a kit that hasn't been around for years and had ample time for refinement. Sorry, I just don't believe in the concept of a "builders kit". They should be precisely as represented on the box or in the advertisements. (my rant)

On the other hand there are numerous plans available and services that sell "short kits" that I feel are the genuine article.

I haven't done an ARF yet that I haven't deviated from the instructions on and this is largely because I started with kits and am not afraid to make some modifications. And I truly believe my RC experience has been enriched by this so naturally I support the notion that anyone that is "into" this hobby should atleast one time do a "box of sticks" build until its flying and flying well. But after that; ARF's would be ok by me because the the flyer will then have a greater appreciation for what he/she is flying as well as the ability to make repairs or mods.

But that's just my take.

Regards,

Clay