DM,,,,,I"m a 757 and 767 driver....And you need to know that I take offence being called a 747 guy. My point is that the 747 guys and GALS have four frickin engines. I do the same crap they do but with only two engines. So from where I'm sitting in my 413,000 lb twin engine transport catagory jet....them four engine *****es all suck. If they lost two they'd be having an emergency.....just a normal day for me. Tell me how you might feel if you were 3 hours from landing with a cargo fire or an engine out.....welcome to my world B. LOL Oh snap, apple juice is flowin!