sweet thanks david. I just put an order in to rc timer for a couple 2836 motors. 1120 kv 320 watts. Should fit the bill nicely. Will run on 3 or 4 s so when they get here hopefully construction will comence.also I'm planning on maidening my 40 tsunami at the end of the month. Hope to have a better flying season than i did last year. Thanks again. Phil