Vertical... i think your comment at the end is a bit uncalled for.

There are Lott's of customers (I'm one of them) that are willing to rave about their favorite toy (i like my Fiberclasic extra but no one accuses me of being on there sales force!)

Ali is an independent who owns a chain of Hobie stores in england who is also to a point in competition with Island Hobbies (capishe) Ali does not have the rights to sell the capishe.

Ali always samples the marketplace and has at times when he is too busy (like preparing his jets for the world champs for instance) given me planes to test before he takes stock so he is aware of the product (good or bad)

With the capishe he took the plane out with the intention of breaking it first flight (he had heard roomers that the wings fall off)

one of his moves was a full throttle blender !!

after 5mins and the wings not coming off he realized that the plane was flying quite nicely and proceeded to make 15 more flights that day. He then posted a long description of the plane with his excitement and joy at how good the plane is.

As you are probably aware now Ali is as independent as they come and as the current British 3style Champion AND the current WORLD JET Freestyle champion beating all the American pilots as well as Sylvestri Sebastiano at the world champs.

i hope you now understand why when Archie says "if Ali says the capishe is better than the seduction then i believe him" he has good reason to

I hope the moderator does not think this is an advert, just stating facts, but if this is near the line PM me and i will remove it

Dave Stephens