RE: To the old salts...
"plebian trainer". I like that. Too bad the hobby folks call a spade a spade. If they would call trainers by some flowery (read that "misleading")) name, they might not be so plebian. They can actually be a blast to fly and most good fliers keep at least one that they can dust off and fly whenever they feel like just leisurely poking around the sky. I was looking for a quickie to do last summer, so I converted my Empire .60 to dual aileron servos. It always did do decent loops and the dual aileron servos fantastically improved the roll rate. And with the GMS .61 on the front of it, it isn't the slowest plane in the sky either. (ain't no pylon racer tho)