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Old 05-15-2011 | 08:00 AM
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Default RE: guarantee of AMA insurance coverage


ORIGINAL: KidEpoxy

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Just to try to keep things straight,
The question to AMA that LCS linked to
asked about commercial vs. non-commercial flying at an AMA field,
not about whether the demo flyer was an AMA member or not.
well, if you have a problem with BradPaul dragiing membership into the discussion,
then take it up with HIM rather than focusing on me disagreeing with him on that
(hmm, if we both disagree with BP, then we agree that it has nothing to do with membership, right?)



So where is this double standard you talk about being demonstrated?
''bring their own insurance'' that Illona talked about was over and above AMA insurance
so that the demo flyer is definitely covered and not rely on the Westchester policy.
The goal is not to make sure that folks have double insurance,
but to make sure they have ANY insurance,
and Ilona was pretty clear in her vaguery that clubs CANNOT count on AMA insurance so those folks should bring their own.
You know who else we cannot count on having AMA insurance,
non-members, so THEY should bring their own too.

How can a club ask for proof of insurance
if the AMA card is not a guarantee of them being insured
.... so we have some folks presenting a card that is no guarantee of insurance
and others presenting a PayPerDay$5bill that ALSO is no guarantee of insurance.
Using one standard we would say that both are ok or both are wrong,
using a DoubleStandard we would say one is ok and the other is wrong

Simple test: Y/N- It is ok for AMA members to have no guarantee of AMA insurance when club flying
due to operating outside AMA safetycode (CommercialDemo/Autonomus/shootingprojectiles/beerflying),
as long as those AMA members bring their own insurance in addition to the no-guarantee AMA insurance
What I have a problem with is dragging non-AMA flyers into this when no mention of that occurred in the question to AMA or in Illona's reply.
As usual, I can barely make head or tails of your reply to me,
but again, what does BP's original question to AMA have to do with whether it is right or wrong for clubs to let non AMA members fly? Nothing.
If LCS, or you, have some specific evidence that non-AMA demo flyers have been operating at AMA fields or functions, let's talk about it.
All the paid, sponsored, or otherwise compensated demo-flyers I know of are top-level competition flyers who must be AMA to do so.