Same here FourSlot... the older VS*R got me into RC tanks, but they didn't last. I think my first post here was about the battery life of the small VS. Cute little IR tanks that can drive around a desktop and shoot each other... can bring them to work, etc Two HL Tigers, HL Panther. Matorro King Tiger, and HL PZIII later here I am again planning a mini-tank desktop battlefield! Full circle...