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Old 06-07-2011 | 05:34 AM
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Default RE: Continuation of rational of trimming

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Having looked at this model -on line - I see nothing extraordinary about it
That is - looks like it should trim out fine as long as power is correct -and power makes a BIG difference.
On models such as these - I never used a bubble degree referrence for a simple reason
Too much error in these instruments as a matter of general findings. This is due to minute errors in LE and TE
Rather - I used a flat referrence plate (perfectly flat table)
Then I supported the model to level fore aft and side to side
Once I established this and a referrence line thru a zero thrust line , I had referrence for any adjusting which may be needed .
One degree is 1/4 '' in one foot -which means - any error on a measuring level can make a sizeable error.
Measurements always went from table UP to given points on the model-using a vertical, adjustable pointer which could be slid around to compare points anywhere
Further -when all is completed -I typically had zero -zero zero OR a measurable wing angle incidence of + 1/16'', Next I setup for 25%-27%% MAAC and flew the thing
This is not a secret procedure - it is very common as it gives a starting point.
The more relative angles you put in -the more compromises you will produce
Some flyers use little or no engine thrust deviance.

At cruise speed ( desired level ''hands off'') level flight speed -Typically THIS setup produced a slightly
nose heavy '' setup
again very common. and should be expected
At this point , common procedure is to shift CG to no more than 30% and note how the model changes by doing only cg changes
The amount of exponential in the radio and throw of surfaces can totally confuse this part of setup
Ideally upright (hands off) to inverted flight will result in a predictable slight down pressure on the elevator
These are the most important stages of a setup -in my book
The amount of thrust line change will depend on POWER and your habits
There is no magic setup which will yield hands off in any attitude IF speed remains the same .
Many guys I have designed for and flown with, do the setups in a similiar manner - No secret trim formula.
from last year
The reason I did things this way is quite simple :
You have to know whre you are FIRST- then pick away at any necessary change- however you choose.
BTW 1/16" (or 1/4degree) was done to allow for building error in wing
Why?
I found (after sending out hundreds of kits) people often change the wood thickness or change contour of part -for strength of personal taste,etc.
therefor - chances were - built to instructions, the wing would set zero or a tad positive to stab and engine

So -start from exact zero zero zero- - fly it and trim in necessary deflections
Then adjust for best handling
a fast model such as most pattern planes are, will respond in pitch NOTICABLY-to a couple of clicks of aileron or elevator trim - a few more clicks of rudder will also give a visual of yaw
The slower the plane -the greater the necessary changes (obvious)
The very latest "pattern"planes I have seen are straighter than many were years back.
why?
computer aided constructions and layups are VERY accurate.
The actual designs?
lateral area to horizontal (wing) area is quite different giving better roll /point etc..
all part of an evolutionary -not revolutionary design change.
This will continue to change -as more of these become electric powered.