The Ventus, Discus, and ASW are all the same aircraft with the same problems, they just change the sticker on the box.. SchempHirth holds the names as well as the patent on the spoilers.. So Nitro Models is ripping them and us off.. Typical Chinese junk. You get what you pay for and sometimes way less.. Apparently the pictures and descriptions they give have nothing to do with what you get.in this case ripped by nitro models... Who buys ad space on RCU so if this doesn't stay up, posted, well ....... Hope you get the message!