"That video version is not very interesting to me. If you can get two complete rotations why would you need a ratchet? It is just full rolls and point rolls in sequence."

My thoughts exactly, Ron. When you go out this weekend, try varying the forward roll and the ratchet back. Tell us what you think looks coolest. Like I said before, my recollection of the amounts each way could be off. Ron, I wonder if I was just lucky to see a guy hot dogging a unique maneuver that only he did? Just seems unbelievable to assume that. I think someone will share their experience with us one of these days. Jon