Not sure on the planes listed, as IMHO the only "Real" way to "Learn" is to get a "Basic Trainer".....which they make in 25 sized as well as 40 sized......Glow and Electric.

But one thing everyone seems to forget is a real "Course" or "Curriculum".....don't just bang the sticks, get a plan to learn, such as following this book....one week to solo (one good example)

http://www.rcflightschool.com/Manuals_Page.asp

(Be the best $25 you ever spend if your serious about learning to fly)[:-]

When used with a good sim….you practice the maneuvers on the sim, then go to the field and practice

Of course a buddy box and instructor would also be a huge help……now that I have started teaching, I see students that are not making correct turns, for example....and think they have been flying correctly on the sim.

And going it alone is tough, since you are required to land and take off your first flight...much less trim a new plane.....

Seems like a better plan would be to drive to the nearest club, even if its 100 miles, to get training until you solo.....

If you must go it alone, make sure and wait for a day with very low wind as well for your first flight on a new plane....especially smaller electrics that can't take the wind like a 10lb plane can.

Just my 2 Cents.....Good Luck!