look at tower hobbies.com. they have deals like spend 150.00 and get 20.00 sometimes more off. also they have free shipping from time to time. not always but, it's usually 10.00 on a arf or kit.they also sell os engines and others like thunder tiger, magnum. these are are good engines too. they are cheaper and run just as good. also, look at the left side of the screen at tower for three pay deals. there are alot of planes, engines, and stuff you can get on a 90 day payment plan. no interest at all, ever. sometimes you can get payments of 40.00 to 100.00 a month over three months,depending on the item, items chosen. i do it all the time. you might have to give 50.00 for the first payment,then it's automaticly taken out of your credit card for the next payments a month later and so on. no b.s and everything is gauranteed as shown. a great place to save money and they have alot of products.....check them out if you haven't already................good luck.....ROM