You're right Cobra, don't size the nail up, just hit the damn thing! I've had better luck myself with the red rtv and loctite actually, but wanted to hear what you guys had to say. One more quick question, do you guys lay the bead then crank it down, or do you lay the bead, hand tighten then go 1/4 to a 1/2 turn more about an hour later like the directions state or do you lay it, wait then crank it down? I'm trying to get to that "Set it and Forget it" Graceland!