Thanks for that insight Johnny. Keep posting great data.

awat: As to rolling while performing a harrier, I snap the plane and add power at the end of the snap. Unfortunately, it lurches forward slightly on the end of the roll, but I need the power to keep the nose high...to maintain any resemblance of a harrier...I presume you're talking about a low-ish level, slow, fly-by harrier position right?

-Juhan