Laughing to myself here. I didnt mean to get a arguement started over this, was just curious if anyone else had seen a harrier. Im not positive but Im pretty sure the guy who was building the harrier here wasnt going to make a vtol out of it. If my memory serves me correctly he was going to run the exhuast through all four ducts and even have them rotate but his intention was to fly it as a conventional jet. If by chance I can find him, since he has moved, I'll ask him about his intentions again. Thanks to everyone who had input on this subject. I have found a few interesting sites from it.