Yeah I put in way too much text then lol thank you for the help, when I found a few links I found only reams of the stuff, but I gave up to quick with the search. Anyways, again is there any special tricks to applying this type of tissue, or anything I should know before I try it out? I don't want to mess up Ive only done two other stick and tissue models, and well fixing errors you make with tissue are pretty hard for me to fix without breaking the formers, or stringers. But then again I was only like 14 or 15 when I first did them, and my modeling skills have increased significantly since then but I like to make things work on the first try.