thanks for all your reply's my friends. well i am a little embarressed to say that, my wife went in my airplane building man cave and found it in less than 5 mins. i looked i promise i did. it was sitting right on top of all my old man magazines.(model airplane news that is.) she dont know about the other man mags i have tashed. thanks again guys. now its off to program. if any of you need any info out of it, pm me and will try to answer.