I love flying my F2D combat, but it is a bit more than I can handle when it is over head. And that is with my old Uktam motor. I am afraid to try the Fora. This summer maybe I'll fire it up for an adrenaline rush. The 80 mph combat seems a bit easier, but not much. I haven't competed for a long time in the c/l combat though. It takes a good pitman(woman?) too. There are a few guys around here that do it. They are all pretty good. They haven't stopped practising since I was a kid, maybe 35 years ago. Not a lot of new blood.