Mark, I'm glad you brought up the "rolling loop". There is a move afoot in the sequence committee to introduce it in the next/future Master's sequence. What a mistake! Most Master's flyers, that I know of, are not interested in "bridging the gap" to F3A. It's real easy, if you want to fly F3A, MOVE UP! Just please don't ask me to put my planes at risk just because you think it's best for all of us. Over these many years, I've seen more than my fair share of F3A pilots that would struggle to be competitive in the Advanced class let alone F3A. Just my thoughts, Everette