Some other guys have posted that we might not be answering you correctly with the replies. To be honest, I am no sure whether this post is a rant or you really need advice. If advice, I am not sure what it is. Could you elaborate a little more.

1. "You have trained on the Sim extensively." This is great and will put you ahead of many flying club members pretty quickly.
2. "Started with a parkflyer with no issues." My assumption is it was a 3 channel parkflyer. I also assume you taught yourself. Great, the simulator did pay off.<br type="_moz" />3. "Decided to get a gas trainer, look at clubs and an instructor." This is where I start to not understand.<ul>[*]Were you wanting to get into glow? See the third bullet below.[*]Were you wanting to move to aileron planes? ( you can do this in electric without moving to glow. Also, if you are already flying you don't need an instructor to add ailerons but might help a little in confidence.)[*]Were you wanting to be part of a club? (You can do this with electric, glow or gas. I personally have all three and love all three including two 4 channel parkflyers. I love going two blocks to fly in the park instead of 20 miles to the field)[*]Were you needing the instructor to teach you glow, because you already know how to fly including rudder if you have been flying 3 channel. (This is why I am in a club. To learn all the different aspects of this sport - glow, gas and electric. They all have there differences and there is much to learn in each, but mainly just in the power plant. Flying the plane just gets easier the bigger it gets,)[/list]4. "The instructor tells me...no rudder.." and then you ask if someone wants to buy your glow trainer and radio. How did you get here? Did the instructor yell at you when you used the rudder? You obviously did not need any instruction on the rudder because you have been using the rudder when flying the three channel airplane. This doesn't change when you move to 4 channel. With the Cub style planes or most any other electric or glow trainers, the rudder will still turn the airplane. In fact, trainers are very hard to roll inverted with the aileronswithout using the rudder. Ailerons alone is very difficult, at least on my PT-60 it is. The rudder has the most authority in this type airplane (this is how I crashed my first trainer because the ailerons would not counter my rudder input that was opposite because of an incorrect servo installation). The ailerons just help in getting a cleaner turn. You could actually never use the ailerons on most trainers and fly them quite well with rudder and elevator as you are doing now. You also need to keep the radio if you are going to move to 4 channel flight, even in electrics, or more. I have the Eflite Edge 540 and Seagull Xray parkflyers and both need 5 channels because there are two servos on the ailerons (well, you could use a Y-connector and still use 4 channels).

I just started flying last September, so I still remember what being a novice is all about including that first day at the club field with all those other pilots. I now have 9 airplanes from electric parkflyers to a 55 cc gas extra. I love every single plane I own and would never only fly one style. The electric for the convenience and my big gasser because it flyes so well and is less trouble than my glow). But the glow engines have so much power for the size. And I love fiddling with the engines trying to get the most out of them.

When I started last year, my plan was to learn to fly from the instructor and then start flying by myself after soloing. I did not want to fly with a bunch of arogant blow hards in a club. Come to find out I was wrong. These other RC guys were great and love to help you and now I hate to even go fly without some of them at the field too. Just not as fun and I don't learn as much.

My point is, there is nothing wrong with flying only park flyers, if that is what YOU want to do. Park flyers are a lot of fun and there are some pretty high performance 4 channel electric park flyers. It just depends on what YOU want to do. But I will let you in on a secret, there is no way I could be where I am today in 18 months, in flying skills-in multiple airframe types and powerplants, if it were not for my local club. These guys have been invaluable. And the largest contributer was NOT my flight instructor. He just taught me to fly.



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