There is a guy in my club that can do almost every 3-D manuver you can think of with a clipped wing Taylor, that doesn't make it a good 3-D platform. I have flown several PW Extras, I own two different lasers, two Hurricanes and just sold my 35% Carden. I have flown them back to back along with several Ultimates, Pitts, and Wild Hare Giles. The Hurricane and the Carden were the best of the bunch.