Both! You give a complex ARF to someone that is not a modler and well you know what will happen. As Harry Higley says in his book... they are not "Almost Ready to Fly". I've built a few kits and really love it but don't have shop space right now nor time. I hope to change both soon. I'm working on a couple of ARF's and love getting them that someone has either crashed or given up on and bring it back to life. Done that a few times. Best one was a $10 H9 80" Cub. I love them all. As far as awards for AFR's that really should be separate category to be fair. 20 hours vs. 200 not really the same thing.

Jim