mmmmm, id get that engine, ive got one, its bl dy amazing, i cant really describe it, but i'll try: west 50T1 turning a APC 13x4w at 13,000rmp, my flip is heavy:2.5kg and this engine/prop combo gives me a 2:1 power to weight, AMAZING

outherwise, if you dont whant the engine, i wouldent get the the giles, performes less than the hype.

where are you in the UK, come the the RCM&E freestyle comp and get some good proper advice form people of the likes of Ali M