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Old 01-13-2012 | 04:14 AM
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Then you could see a jet engine powered ship in your next contest.
I keep seeing this kind of statement being the ending argument for removing weight limits.. or the classic ''Some guy in a massive overpowered biplane will dominate''

I dont agree to any of that at all. The reality is, that guy still has to be a great pilot.
Guys, I dominated novice with an Ugly Stick... I then moved up and dominated in Sportsman with a Super Kaos 60. I also dominated most contests with that same Kaos, beaten up and oil soaked, in Advanced. Ending up 11th out of 100~some contestants at the 89 Nats.

Thats all I could afford with Dad's help back then. I know I would have done much better if I was sponsored with the best of the best, but I was handicapped with my ugly kaos 60.

I think we just need to be honest... its not the plane that may show up to compete against... its the pilot!
I can promise you all, when my biggest competition shows up at a contest, what he is flying is the secondary thought/concern.

I really dont believe removing the weight rule would change much of anything, so long as the size stays in place.
Here are a few things that might change by removing the weight limit:
1) Nats attendance could possibly increase by approximately 40% according to the survey
2) Guys\Gals could tip the scales slightly to attend the Nats if they needed or wanted to
3) Could possibly eliminate the concern over lipo manufacturers and distributors not being able to economically cater to a limited market seeking lighter and lighter batteries. It is getting more difficult to get 20c's anymore, which are lighter.

Here are a few certainty's.
1) It will reduce costs overall for pattern.
2) No one will fly a jet in a pattern contest (well their will always be that one)

The 40% more Nats attendance quoted above is off. The fact is, as of 1/12/2012, only17 individual (16%) indicated they would not attend because of plane being over weight.

However, the data stops here and we do not know how much their planes are overweight, and by how much. Do they care about trimming some weight off if feasible? I and others have shown ideas to remove dead weight without, or with very little $$$. On the contrary, I have not seen solid examples of somebody's planes being overweight and by how much.

For reason 3 above, I just looked at Hobbyking.com, f3aunlimited.com, and hobbyparts.com where one can purchase good quality f3a batteries. The classic 5c 5000mah ones are readily available. No shortage. Price-wise, you pay extra to get lighter ones and I believe you can periodically get good deal from f3aunlimited.com on lighter packs.


I figured that once the weight-rule is removed, somebody will request the removal of the size rule, because of their planes being too heavy and planes with increased wing area/span could economically fix the problem. There is no reason the request is not considered as we have done so for the weight rule. Pretty quickly, the noise rule will be gone.

My question is why we want to remove the current rule that make the pattern plane and their flying so unique. Do you really want to fly pattern with your other non-pattern planes?