new hard drive so i dont think that's the problem, although i'm gonna try that anyway.... it was late when i posted that and i forgot to give my hardware : P4 2.80 with windows XP Pro SP3 with 3 gigs of ram, Nvidia Riva 64 Pro with 32 Gigs, Samsung B2430H monitor running at 1920 X 1080 32bit and DriectX 9....... i know version 2 is out but i want to get this up and running before i upgrade.