after trying both sims I went with Phoenix it felt right , and it came with a spektrum DX5e ,  i got it loaded on 3 computers  but you got to use the cable it came with thas't the program key . it plugs into my Aurora 9,  i will will need to get and adapter for my Airtroics stylus, the planes react like at the field tip stalls and all,   is it fun?  yes .