Yeah man Toledo is still all cracked out - i live on the maumee/toledo border and we just a bit cracked out lol. I have been doing alot of research on these cars, and i have found that the TA TC3 looks to be a lot more advanced and durable than the other ones, but you still cant beat the price of the HPI. I am thinking hardly about building a kit, i think it would help me learn the parts and understand them more, but then do those come with engines or no? i am trying to spend no more than 350.00 to get it running, i will worry about upgrades at a later time. thanks again.

Mike