Again thank you.

Yes I use all manual machines.
I have seen Urmans thread concerning both his engine and starting system, what can I say he does do some very nice work.
I have gave some thought to a starting system, but never got it off the board to do anything with it. Besides Electricity and myself have never been the best of friends.
Maybe some day when I feel that I really need something to start my engines I may look into it further.