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Old 03-05-2012 | 07:08 AM
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Holy Recreational Argument Soundbite Batman.

Ask the city what the rules are, and if they dont tell show you a rule against it, then you are golden.
Not even close. If you fly over anybody's property other than your own without permission, you are trespassing.
Not even close???
Really?

Lets see what I said leading that soundbite you want to RecArg-
Many cities/countys have adopted local laws restricting modeling on city/county property (like say a park ) . If you got the moxie, ask the local parks department what the rules are to use the park. Do NOT ask if XXXX is forbidden, cause the easy thing for some lazy public worker to do is just make up an answer like NO, and you are hosed. Heck, we even saw an electric club claim a schoolyard was electric only, but when I asked the school they didnt say that. Ask the city what the rules are, and if they dont tell show you a rule against it, then you are golden.
WOW, I was talking about him using the PARK, not about him trespassing.
Why was I talking about using the park? Because HE was talking about him using the park in post1.

If he is in parks, how did you make the leap to gripe about him trespassing,
and if you are so upset over your belief that he is trespassing, TELL HIM, not me.
The OP said he was flying in parks,
how can you say I'm not even close when I tell him learn the park rules and obey each one.


How can he find out what the park rules are?
A LOT of parks will put up a sign that lists them
.. stuff like NoAlcohol, NoGuns, No Golf, NoFires, NoRadios etc.
If they list the 7 or 8 things as NO XXXX, and none of them XXX is toy airplanes,
then there is no rule against toy airplanes.
Thats an important concept folks dont want to admit:
If when you read all the rules and there is no rule against it,
then there is no rule against it

I told the guy to find out what the rules ARE,
and follow those rules.

And it seems folks just want to recreational argue every post I make.


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Joe,
You can believe the folks that say there is no way for citizens like you to even find out waht laws you are required to obey, and that when you say you use parks they talk about you trespassing,
or
you can believe that the city doesnt keep Secret Laws the public has to obey but cannot see.
I have called parks depts before, I have exchanged emails with parks dept before, I have visited PLENTY of parks that even had signs that list the rules.

See what I was saying about folks trying to sell you AMA.
If you join AMA, I'd like you to do so because you want to- because you like what AMA does
... not cause shills tricked you about mythical Secret Laws and so-called trespassing in parks that dont have a rule against it

Just remember, the AMA named its discount electric tier The Park Pilot Program.
It almost is like they had flying Parkflyer type craft in parks.
And the flagship PPP club was using a middle school yard in Vegas.
Dont let folks trick you into thinking you cant fly on city land in america, cause AMA PPP was based on doing just that
.... heck, ask the naysayers about all the AMA clubs that get leases with cities to use city lands. The impossible for you suddenly seems very a reasonable thing to do when the AMA club does it.

Even better, ask the naysayers if you should get 4 friends to join you
and Club Up the city park as an AMA field.
Go ahead, lets see them AMA shills try to tell you NOT to make more cityland AMA clubs.
Heh, you can even call the AMA and they have a person that helps you do just that.
Again, very reasonable thing to do... as long as you pay AMA in the eyes of the shills.