Osmax2 there are 100's probably more like 1000's of Raptors out there flying very well and performing 3D in stock out of the box configuration. This is my main gripe with you people, your telling the world it can't be done which is a lie.

It would appear your goal is to bash ThunderTiger products and push the Caliber30, Venture30 and Fury50 with the coveted mystical CCPM.

The reason I'm offended is because I have the difficult part in this exchange, you get to say things like the Raptor is a nice helicopter but needs upgrades to fly properly. I on the other hand feel compelled to point out that this is not true that it will fly just fine built with what comes in the kit. You on the other hand make wild statements like the Raptor is doomed unless they make it CCPM cabable, I have to point out that CCPM is not for everyone and that it does have some short coming's if you use cheap servo's. flmgrip complains that the links are to tight on the balls. I tell him to replace them with Rocket City links and resize the links to get a good fit, he complains that he shouldn't have to do that well he's probably right but JR makes the Ball link sizing tool for a reason and it was not because ThunderTiger links were to tight it's just something that you have to do if you want your control system to operate smoothly. There are a lot of people out there that use Rocket City links on their helicopters and its not just ThunderTiger customers.

flmgrip has some problems with his kit it sounds like the swashplate is sloppy this happens and I'm sure Ace will take care of it unless he bought the kit outside the States. All I can say about the instructions is I was able to build mine using them and a little commonsense, they really do need to update them though.
In the end I agree with ThunderTiger the Raptor will fly 3D out of the box and does not need all that shiny stuff to do it well. I wish it would stop raining!