To sum it up:

"3D out of the box" might have been the wrong title for this thread. Except the driven tail and carbon blades I will not upgrade anything. And I am sure it will serve me very well and very cheap as a trainer for new things incl. 3D

"Main grip with you people" ? I never said it couldn't be done and I am sure I will fly "3D out of the box"

I am not bashing any product or promoting any other product. I was just telling about my problems building the rappy. The links, the swashplate and poor instructions (which was not a problem for me, but common sense is not good enough if this is your FIRST heli you build)
I will contact ACE about the swashplate and post and update about that once this is resolved

This is a great first heli, just get some help putting it together if you never build one. You can't beat it for this money.

I do not think much of upgrades; most of them will make it look better, but not fly better. Its like getting alloy wheels for your car.

CCPM or not: both have their up and downs. And I believe the rappy is the best non-CCPM heli out there and that's why I bought it. I in no way do regret my purchase and I am sure I will have plenty of hours on this one.

If one want's to discuss CCPM they should start a new thread. IMO CCPM will not make a heli better or worse, just different. I personally like it. But like I said if one wants to discuss this, start a new thread.

Last, I took the good boy out today, interesting to fly with ail. and el. not centering correctly.

Besides of that ROCK SOLID in the air!