Bryan, I never put the Contra on to eliminate mixes. Putting it on did not eliminate a single mix. But it also did not make me add a single mix. I have no idea why you think it would. I'd have to say that is pretty retarded, again using your word. I don't know how you would think eliminating torque, P-factor, gyroscopic precession and spiral slipstream is not eventually a better way to fly. Maybe because it can't be driven by a YS motor! Or maybe because a Contra drive will change your trimming charts! But I do believe with continued development of airframes it will gain popularity. It simply has too many built in advantages. Right now we are installing the Contra into designs developed for many years using a single prop. It's going to take some time to develop airframes just for the Contra. This is very similar to when we switched to electric. We used designs developed for IC engines and found that a few changes for electric were in order.

I'd be willing to bet you've been beat a lot by pilots flying airplanes that are nowhere near as well trimmed as yours. I know I have. So those guys have certainly learned how to fly there lesser trimmed models correctly.

BTW, I currently use 3 mixes. Rudder to Aileron for KE trim. Rudder to Elevator for KE trim. Throttle to Elevator for downline trim. That's it. That's all I used when I had a single prop on my models and it's all I have activated for the Contra.

Hey Rick. Glad to hear you've moved the CG forward on that model. I watched a lot of them fly and almost all of them looked tail heavy to me. I tried talking to a couple of owners about that but I got nowhere. I'm sure it will fly a lot better with the CG forward.