ahh, yes, but not all can handle it

me honestly, love pan cars, even for "bashing" simple, reliable,fast and on the right surface with right driver, are untouched by touring cars.

but unless you have a good place to run them, and unless you are able to drive RWD, they are not a joy at all.

honestly, I would get a ofna JL10E drift kit, you will need all your running equipment and need to buy and paint your own body, but I think its a great way to go, ofna carries a great line, HPI.... I don't know, ive had some of their stuff and I was never really thrilled about them.

the kit is like $115 then a body $20-30, and a brushless setup (ez run) $60, servo $20, battery (generic) $20 radio (fly sky) $20 and charger (again generic) $30 so your looking at $280 to get going, but at least you start with a good charger and battery along with a brushless setup.