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Old 06-23-2012 | 01:14 PM
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Default RE: How to trim without subtrim


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Everything the OP has said so far indicates the airplane is nose heavy. The other trimming suggestions and articles are of little help until the CG is set correctly.
I'm not getting how everything the OP has said indicates a nose heavy condition. I've reread the OP's post and he says it is balanced at 2.85" aft of LE. That point is confirmed to be the published CG by John Gilmore.

Sorry gus been away for a few days.


Indicators of being nose heavy. The first would be the requirement for excessive up trim. As stated by later posts, the OP states just a tad of positive wing incedence. This is the way I set up all my aerobatic models. I usually set up a model with a CG that requires no elevator trim. The 45 degree upline test is a good way to verify CG. If no elevator trim is required and it stays on an inverted 45 hands off or slightly pulls to level the CG is correct.

Pulling to the canopy in knife edge. Almost all the airplanes I have owned that are capable of knife edge will tuck towards the gear slightly when the CGis correct.

Fast landing, Nose heavy airplanes land fast.

The OP has stated that he verified the CG location as per instructions. This doesn't mean that it's 100% the correct CG. It usually mens the airplane will fly. Clearly the airplane is sending indicators that the CG is too far forward. I always get a chuckle when I read test flight results that ends with the model being in perfect trim when a few clicks of this and a few clicks of that are applied. My airplanes usually take about 50 flight to get into 95% trimmed. The last 5% is like chasing a Unicorn.