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Old 09-03-2003 | 07:45 PM
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J_R
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Hi Joe

For those that are unfamiliar with the subject of Dayton, let's let everyone in on the thread that precipitated your letter to Dave Brown: http://www.rcuniverse.com/showthread...114&forumid=34

This thread was up to 6 pages when I read through it and here are the facts I came away with:

1 A Giant Scale Fly-In was held at Dayton. It was not a Scale Warbirds Fly-In.

2 There were approximately 30 war birds and approximately 300-400 3 D type aircraft present.

3 The CD held a pilots meeting on Friday setting aside 1 hour for Warbirds before noon, 1 hour for "torquers" before noon and
then open flying, with the chance that if more Warbirds came, that they would get an additional hour in the afternoon. No flying was to take place over the runway. With the preponderence of the airplanes being "torquers" they were allowed to dominate, and did, indeed fly and hoover over the runway.

4 The original poster is suggesting that the Scale guys write to Wright Patterson AFB and complain and try to reclaim the event.

5 Joe, you have written to Dave Brown, calling for more rules and posted that letter in the thread as well.

6 Someone suggested contacting the CD about the concerns of the Warbird guys, which went pretty much ignored.

7 Gary Webb, I assume the CD, made this post:

"I guess its time to get my two cents in. I am the Air Boss at the DOGS event and my name is Gary Webb. I am not afraid to sign my name. The DOGS event has always been a giant scale fly-in period. Paul of RC warbirds.com has encouraged this to be one of the biggest gathering of warbirds yet. He nor I said anything about it being a warbird only event. We did allow time on Saturday for warbirds only for 11/2 hours. Followed by 1 1/2 hours for aerobatic type aircraft. After half time it was general flying with no hovering over the runway. We did have one pilot who did not abide by this and was delt with. We had no mid airs. There would have been separate times on Friday also but the weather and lack of warbirds present in the morning prevented it. It was general flying all day. Sunday was almost a rainout. We let anyone who wanted to stay and fly. fly. By the way the only warbird to fly Sunday was yours truly flying my small Mustang in the morning and a friend of mines 1/4 scale FW190 for the noon show. The warbird guys had already left.
Also no one ever came to me with a problem. All I heard was positive comments. Maybe before you write negative things about an event, you should at least attend it yourself!!
The DOGS members work very hard all year long to put this event on.
Again, this is a IMAA giant scale fly-in not a 3D or warbird event. The noon show normally has the same pyrotechnics as the Shelby event, but due to the weather and damp conditions we were not able to put it on this year. On sat. there were many warbirds in the air during the warbird only time and the crowd loved it. Also the noon time show was filled with a huge warbird event with nine birds in the air at a time. I flew in it myself. It was great!!
Also the photo of all the planes hovering was taken during the noon time show during the 3D shoot out that lasted for all of five minutes!
To me some one is just trying to throw negative comments on a great show for some unknown reason.
Bob Sadler said it best. He said of all of the shows he does for model aviation, the DOGS event reaches more non flying people than any other show, to show them are great hobby/sport.
Enough said.
I would like to thank all those at this time for coming by at the event to thank us for putting on our event.
Regards,
Gary Webb"


Joe, would you agree that those are the pertinent thoughts in the thread?

JRR