have you ever been to the dogs event? it used to be really nice event had a ton of warbirds there along with aerobats. then when the aerobats started 3d'ing the warbird guys dicided to say hell with it. 3-400 aerobats therre used to be an equal amount of warbirds. Like mose multi plane events the aerobats have taken over the skys with their hovering and ***** so the warbirds left. Now you are a military museum or AFB and you used to have a couple hundred warbirds show up every year then all the sudden the only ones that show up are areobats dont you think it is time to find out why everyone stopped coming? I am not saying it needs to be a "WARBIRD" event like evryone else I am saying it is advertised as a Giant "Scale" event even though you occasionally see 3d done in the full scale it very rarely is so if they want to fly in the pattern like the civilian planes and the warbirds thats fine and dandy but 3d crap should be out period no special times for this or that just a nice big scale event where everyone can go up whenevery they want and everyone flies the pattern. If anyone the size of DOGS held an event like that and kept all 3d crap out and was open flying all day you would see a lot of the warbird and civilian scale guys show up but intil they do away with the idiots noone wants to put a $3000+ plane in the area near those morons thus you only get 30 warbirds insted of the old 1 or 200

do you understand now why people arent showing up? if you look at the history of this event and the history of a lot of other events across the country until the idiots started letting the morons do their 3D crap on top of the runway and in the pattern you had a huge turnout of all types of planes and everyone always got along. get rid of 3D and ytou get reid of all the problems and attendance grows again.

Joe

I told ya dont get me goijng lol I am into this one as bad as the weight one prob is i dont see either having a snowballs chance in ya know what of even being looked at. remember i told ya before it will prob be ignored because of the size of the aerobat community