ORIGINAL: Iherling
What is a good 60 size ARF ...must be an ARF.. with a symmetrical or semisymmetrical airfoil that is a good 2nd plane. Have done loops rolls some inverted flight with my trainer but want to step up. I have read tons of previous posts on good 2nd planes, but am looking for a down and dirty answer or suggestion
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I was glad my teacher helped me in this area.......of course I did NOT listen and crashed an Extra 300S and a revolver, amongst others. But the best second plane IMHO (No flameing here)

is a Hangar 9 Ultra Stick...A.K.A. "Ugly Stick"
I alwayas have one in the hangar, I prefer the .40 size as it is RED and more manevuerable IMHO...I am on my 5th "Ugly Stick" in just about 5 years flying.
I set it up tail dragger so you get used to the rear wheel and on mild rate, it is as tame as a high wing trainer........
with an O/S .55 and the right prop, it is unlimited acrobatics when setup correctly.
They are alot of fun and I even like the .60 size it's just not the good colors for me [:@]
I crashed a few learning to get down "Low" and "Inverted" but I still have and fly number 5 today, and it is my favorite warm up plane as well as get crazy and don't care plane..........