ok thanks a lot guys, you're saviors!

i looked up the Ravager, that's what it is for sure. I've had my fair share of Losi 8ights and even a Hyper 7 but i just wanted something to go bash around. I'm not a huge OFNA fan as it is and even though my mountain bike is worth about $200 i don't think i want an entry level buggy when i could spend a few hundred and get another 8ight. I might just get a couple Associated 18R's so me and the buddies can **** around the parking lots.