Oh ok I see what you are saying now. I think I'm going to use the ca hinges this time but will probably go to the robarts or something else once I get to the point of needing a recovering job possibly later on. I'm planning on flying this plane quite a bit. I like flying different types of planes a lot but I have a feeling this will be a favorite of mine. Im into learning 3d lately but still like scale type flying since I used to have a full size pitts. ( hoping to get another acro mount when I get my medical back)