I have flowen a Saratoga for two years both on and off the water...It is a wonderfull plane...The Hanger 9 floats need to be fiberglassed to be real worthwile floats because the covering comes off....The covering on the Saratoga does too.....I crashed my first saratoga and they are pretty flimsy....It just disintrgated...I liked it so much I bought another one....I find it to land slow and easy.... I have an OS 55 AX on mine and it is overpowered ..An OS 46 AX would be a better match...I really like the sholder wimg . I can not understand why it is discontinued...I guess it wasent selling ...