thanks for the info...really think i want to gowith thebigger scale.but not sure..hoping ill get more input in these forums to help with the decision..theres not many reviews i can find about the avalanche xte but the ones i find are very good...and in the begiinning i was looking at the volcano epx pro and caldera 10e but for some reason i was drawn to the avalanche xte..we will see, like i said hopefully i will get some other comments to help, but thanks i appreciate it.