RE: Phoenix 8
The P8 was a solid all around performer. Didn't do anything spectacularly well, just good all around flier. It's strength was its good behavior over a wide range of speed (lightly built). Built stock with the stock dihedral the model displayed solid rolling and point rolling.
Build it light tho. Mine came in at 7 1/2 pounds and flew well there
I used OSs andWebras in mine, piped. For no pipe, try the Jett