I teach both flying and building so after a student has soloed if they want to learn to build too I use the 4*60, it's a nice second plane with no bad habits. The Pulse 60 is almost the same plane. One of my students went right into ARFs after learning to fly and bought the Pulse. I'm not a ARF guy myself but I have been very impressed with the way the Pulse is built and flys. It's a great second plane and will allow you to start learning stunt flying. Any of the sticks are a good choice too but the Pulse is an easier plane to fly and land. For me it would be the Pulse or stick.