http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...I=LXAPPLBG&P=7 Have you considered this truck? There is a brushless version down the page a bit. This is the old associated T-3 truck from what I have been informed of. When the two companies merged, this was relesed under the thunder tiger brand. I have a T-3 and have beat the hell out of it, and raced it successfully. Love the old T-3 and I think it was a better truck than the T-4, (personal preference). Good luck making your choice!