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Old 02-04-2013 | 07:07 PM
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Default RE: Noob to War Plane


ORIGINAL: bikerbc

I think the Tiger 60 would be a good choice for a build..It sort of falls into the war bird pattern , low wing and you can easily make it a tail dragger...It is a nice looking plane, With a OS75AX it really zips and yet it is quite manageable...It is a low wing trainer...The Tiger II is another choice..Its a bit smaller and so maybe a bit faster...

I think I'm going to stick with a high wing trainer because I would eventually like to try and get my son and wife flying eventually and even though I'm confident in my abilities they are not.

ORIGINAL:vertical grimmace

If you wanna move into warbirds eventually, I would recommend going right into gas engines. I would say, look for a trainer that will fly with a DLE 20. Then you can use that engine to advance further until you get to your warbird. You will learn about dealing with Gasoline powered engines, and this will give you a head start. I would not bother with glow at all as they are ddying on the vine. The future is gas.
This was my original thinking, to start with what I plan on using and not use old technology and equipment. That way I can learn the equipment and maintenance need to up keep my stuff. Also to cut back on having a bunch of redudant stuff hanging around. I see alot of guys now trying to get rid of their old glow stuff to go gas and electric is something im not interested in.

I am still open to the idea.. in fact i would prefer it. But I am not jumping into anything yet until I make a solid decision. Could anyone pair up a gas engine with a good trainer? Would any available gas engine fit into a Kadet LT-40? I'm still trying to figure out how gas power engines convert to the glow engine sizes.

ORIGINAL:GadgetGeek
Hi,
Lots of great info. However, if you want to use a gas engine and fly a fun trainer type plane I would recommend the Sig Cadet Senior. Like the Eagle 2 only bigger and with SIG quality. And being bigger it will handle a larger gas engine which makes the power to weight ratio much nicer. One of the main flyers in my club has this and he loves it.
Is the Sig Kadet Senior the same plane design as the Kadet LT-40 only bigger? From what I understand though its an older kit, Die Cut and does not inclued all the parts to complete the plane that the Kadet LT-40 comes with.

ORIGINAL:sprgfvr02

If you really want to learn to fly with a gas trainer, try looking at Maxford. They have a plane that uses a CRRC 26cc engine. It is the 'Mentor'. I bought one in 2011 and have flown it many times. I bought it to get a plane I could play with gas engines. The plane is a high wing trainer with an 82 inch wingspan. I don't know the current price, but I bought mine as a bundle (engine and plane) for $400. I think it is a bit more now. Check it out.
Thanks for the suggestion but I'm looking for a kit.




Ok update... after looking further into getting the Eagle II I was a bit taken back by the final price point that didn't include servos, receiver battery etc. With the engine, parts I needed for mods and building supplies I was looking at spending between 350-400 dollars. So I was a bit taken back. Not so much about the money I know this hobby is gonna be a money pit regardless but I would also like to get more bang for the buck.<div></div><div>So I continued looking into other options which is now leading me towards going with the Sig Kadet LT-40. It kit is a lot more complete then Goldbergs and its also laser cut. Also the modifications I would like to do seemed more suited to the Kadet and I found a great article showing how to do it.

Four part series:
http://masportaviator.com/2010/02/09...iner-part-one/
http://masportaviator.com/2010/02/26...lage-and-tail/
http://masportaviator.com/2010/08/04...er-part-three/
http://masportaviator.com/2011/06/07/building-a-wood-kit-trainer-part-four/<br type="_moz" />
The only thing this article doesnt cover is converting it to a tail dragger. I have looked it up and I know it can be done... anything can be done. Is it as easy as buying the parts and connecting a push rod from the rudder servo to the tail wheel for control? No offense I saw some real hack jobs and I like my work to be clean and proper. Although most did this modification after building their planes. Some connected the tail wheel directly to the rudder but then I saw some of them tore the back off their fuse up.

Anyway my research continues... i uploaded my part list for the Eagle II if you wanna check it out and now will start one for the Kadet to see where we stand. Also can someone point me somewhere of how it all goes together... if not I will find it. What im looking for is a diagram that shows how everything is hooked up and what I need to get my engine operational. We can get into specifics when I make a final choice of motor. Also anyone have any suggestions on servos, remember I have a Spektrum TX, I plan on having dual airleon servos so I can have flaperons.

Please any help and suggestions is much appreciated. I checked and my local club doesnt meet for almost 3 weeks so I cant go pick their brains til then.</div><br type="_moz" />
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