ORIGINAL: jester_s1
GBLynden - You're making a lot more sense to me now too. I didn't catch that your point was for beginners to take it easy and not advance beyond their skill levels. Your first post implied that working through that series of planes on one's own would give one the skills to fly anything they want, which it usually won't. There is an element in the hobby these days that really rubs me the wrong way that essentially says, "I don't want to work on skills. I just want to have fun flying and I don't want anybody telling me anything." I watched a guy enter and then exit the hobby last year who could have done well if he was inclined to listen to the voice of experience, but he just had to do it all on his own and then call to tell me how great he was. About two months later his 2 destroyed Champs and easily another $50 in spare parts were on Craigslist along with a junky RTF he bought that never worked.
I never said any of that. I swear, the bias in this thread is getting rediculous. News flash, most people don't fly stuff they make anymore. Along the same lines, most beginners start out at the hobby shop where most places recommend the Champ or something comparable. If you don't like that, tough. It is not going to go back to the way things used to be and it is only going to get "worse".
Also, just because some guy you thought you could "fix" made some mistakes doesn't mean that there is anything wrong with that methodology. Have any of you actually flown a Champ? The rudder is set-up like the ailerons on a four-channel, so going to a four-channel from a Champ is a natural progression. You just have more control with the four-channel plane because you have both. How that could be a bad trainer plane is laugheable.
Do you start people out with Dual Rates and Expo or do you let them go full rates and not progress up to that level over time?
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