No worries. I didn't splain it very well. I like building as much as flying. I do some building for other folks. This year I didn't have anything of my own for the show so I entered John's Hog Bipe. He's 82 years old and just got in the hobby 3 years ago. He flies pretty good but says he wants lots of buddy box time on this one. The look we were going for was PT17. Turned out nice. I love Sig kits. They just always seem to come out a little heavier than advertised. Here's a couple of pics from the build.