Just found this; It seems there are links between Sunray Technology and "Xcelerin"(a brand of Losi),and a bit of digging showed this:
<span style="font-size: small">There is the same situation with car inrunner brushless motors, as there is with aircraft motors:
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<span style="font-size: medium">HACKER CAR MOTORSAREIDENTICAL TOLOSI MOTORS AND ORION MOTORS
</span> -And all these inrunner motorsare made by the SunRay Technology factory
http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...motors-17.html
kn7671: <span style="font-size: small">
"Comparison Pictures of Hacker - Losi Brushless Motors" -shows that a Losi Xcelorin 13T car inrunner motor, is identical both inside and outside, to Hacker E40 17.5T car inrunner motor
</span>JevUK:
" ... we could be seeing is that both losi and hacker source oem parts from the same manufacturer"
http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/archiv.../t-227425.html
EAMotorsports:
" Hacker, New style Orion and Losi come from the same place -the losi .... is identical to the Hacker inside and out....other than it has a removable sensor harness"
NovakTwo(from the NOVAK company):
"The Hacker motors are direct copies of our original design. <span style="font-size: small">The owner of Hacker called Bob and told Bob that they were copying our motor.</span> Horizon (i.e. Losi) is also a direct copy, which they admitted ..."
Seems that Mr Hacker has copied the Novak car motor ...</p>